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Hi

 

Wow what an amazing forum this is. I am relatively new to pen-testing and stumbled upon this forum via googling clutch/class-dump-z etc.

 

I have been successful with clutch, class-dump, gdb, etc but some details elude me.

 

1. Clutch doesn't list stock Apple apps so how are we supposed to clutch them? Via grep PID? 

 

2a. All of this pen-testing produces only class header methods and property names etc? What about the REAL data that's in the methods defined in the .m files such as domain addresses, beacon UIDs, method definitions etc?

 

2b. So gdb gives us @selector names which are the names of the functions/methods but how are we supposed to work with the function names if we don't have the method definition? 

 

 

I was sort of disappointed with the results of my first days of pen-testing because I thought I could learn more about coding via dumped .m files where all the valuable syntax is located.  It was the whole point of starting to learn pen-testing. 

 

Are there any tools to view the actual code of a binary? Btw, all this stuff is fine for Obj-C but what about Swift binaries? Cycript is the way to go?

 

I've been reading tons of tutorials on iOS security but a lot of them seem to pre-date iOS 8. Some say use class-dump, some say use class-dump-z etc. Are there any current tutorials that are super thorough from basic of clutch all the way up to hooking into runtime?

 

Thanks

 

 

Posted

Hi

 

Wow what an amazing forum this is. I am relatively new to pen-testing and stumbled upon this forum via googling clutch/class-dump-z etc.

 

I have been successful with clutch, class-dump, gdb, etc but some details elude me.

 

1. Clutch doesn't list stock Apple apps so how are we supposed to clutch them? Via grep PID? 

 

2a. All of this pen-testing produces only class header methods and property names etc? What about the REAL data that's in the methods defined in the .m files such as domain addresses, beacon UIDs, method definitions etc?

 

2b. So gdb gives us @selector names which are the names of the functions/methods but how are we supposed to work with the function names if we don't have the method definition? 

 

 

I was sort of disappointed with the results of my first days of pen-testing because I thought I could learn more about coding via dumped .m files where all the valuable syntax is located.  It was the whole point of starting to learn pen-testing. 

 

Are there any tools to view the actual code of a binary? Btw, all this stuff is fine for Obj-C but what about Swift binaries? Cycript is the way to go?

 

I've been reading tons of tutorials on iOS security but a lot of them seem to pre-date iOS 8. Some say use class-dump, some say use class-dump-z etc. Are there any current tutorials that are super thorough from basic of clutch all the way up to hooking into runtime?

 

Thanks

What do you mean by "actual code"? There's thing called IDA which lets you encrypt the binary. That is how we hack. :)

Posted

Ok well IDC/IDA is all new to me. I don't want to do any hacking per se. I just want to view the original code that was created with the IDE. Is the closest we can get the header files with class-dump?

 

Also how do we clutch stock Apple apps?

Posted

Ok well IDC/IDA is all new to me. I don't want to do any hacking per se. I just want to view the original code that was created with the IDE. Is the closest we can get the header files with class-dump?

 

Also how do we clutch stock Apple apps?

so like your gonna make an stock.ipa and put it in appstore  xD

Posted (edited)

so like your gonna make an stock.ipa and put it in appstore  xD

HaHa and make billions$.

 

I guess no one on iOS Gods is actually a god then :( 

 

No one is going to teach me how to clutch stock apps?

Updated by osakaboy
Posted

Who's this noob DiDA you're talking about?

 

Jk :p

 

Class Dump is the closest you can get like in every Windows form application.

 

The latest Class Dump is classdump-dyld from limneos for iOS 8.

 

You can't see the stock apps in Clutch because they are not listed as mobile. The permissions are still on root however you can try to clutch the executable name of the stock app or try Flex 2 which displays them also.

Posted (edited)

@osakaboy

All the .m and source files are compiled into a binary.

If you want the code, you can only reverse engineer it with clutch and read the ARM instructions (using IDA) in the decrypted binary.

Decrypting & Disassembling the binary and getting the source code in plain text is just not possible.

Updated by KingRalph
Posted

@osakaboy

All the .m and source files are compiled into a binary.

If you want the code, you can only reverse engineer it with clutch and read the ARM instructions (using IDA) in the decrypted binary.

Decrypting & Disassembling the binary and getting the source code in plain text is just not possible.

So to clarify we CAN read the .m source code by using clutch then using IDA?  Are the ARM instructions the same as the method definitions? i.e. the code the programmer wrote?

Who's this noob DiDA you're talking about?

 

Jk :p

 

Class Dump is the closest you can get like in every Windows form application.

 

The latest Class Dump is classdump-dyld from limneos for iOS 8.

 

You can't see the stock apps in Clutch because they are not listed as mobile. The permissions are still on root however you can try to clutch the executable name of the stock app or try Flex 2 which displays them also.

But how do you clutch the executable if its number value i.e. 1-23 isn't listed in clutch? i.e. "clutch 2". And are you saying I should use classdump-dyld instead of the older class-dump tools? Classdump-dyld is specifically written for iOS 8?

Posted

So to clarify we CAN read the .m source code by using clutch then using IDA?  Are the ARM instructions the same as the method definitions? i.e. the code the programmer wrote?

Absolutely not.  :no:

The closest you can get to the source code is reading the binary's ARM processor code.

You cannot read the code in plain objective c code.

If you want to find out more info about the app's code, you can debug it using FLEXible.

Posted

But how do you clutch the executable if its number value i.e. 1-23 isn't listed in clutch? i.e. "clutch 2". And are you saying I should use classdump-dyld instead of the older class-dump tools? Classdump-dyld is specifically written for iOS 8?

I don't think it has to be listed when you type Clutch "Binaryname". Clutch 1.4.7 has it I believe. Anyway I read somewhere that you don't need to crack the stock apps to use class dump

 

Yea cd-dyld is faster and does not generate errors because of some iOS 8 structures.

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      STEP 8: Once the installation is complete and you see the app on your Home Screen, you will need to go to Settings -> General -> Profiles/VPN & Device Management. Once there, tap on the email you entered from step 6, and then tap on 'Trust [email protected]'.
      STEP 9: Now go to your Home Screen and open the newly installed app and everything should work fine. You may need to follow further per app instructions inside the hack's popup in-game.

      NOTE: iOS/iPadOS 16 and later, you must enable Developer Mode. For free Apple Developer accounts, you will need to repeat this process every 7 days. Jailbroken iDevices can also use Sideloadly/Filza/IPA Installer to normally install the IPA with AppSync. If you have any questions or problems, read our Sideloadly FAQ section of the topic and if you don't find a solution, please post your issue down below and we'll do our best to help! If the hack does work for you, post your feedback below and help out other fellow members that are encountering issues.


      Credits:
      - AlyssaX64


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    • Idle Bank Tycoon: Money Empire v1.58.0 +2 Cheats
      Modded/Hacked App: Idle Bank Tycoon: Money Empire By Kolibri Games GmbH
      Bundle ID: com.luckyskeletonstudios.idlebanktycoon
      iTunes Store Link: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/idle-bank-tycoon-money-empire/id1645281275?uo=4


      Mod Requirements:
      - Jailbroken iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch.
      - iGameGod / Filza / iMazing or any other file managers for iOS.
      - Cydia Substrate, Substitute or libhooker depending on your jailbreak.
      - PreferenceLoader (from Cydia, Sileo or Zebra).


      Hack Features:
      - Free iAP
      - Unlimited Currencies // Use even you have 0 Currencies


      Non-Jailbroken & No Jailbreak required hack(s): https://iosgods.com/forum/79-no-jailbreak-section/
      Modded Android APK(s): https://iosgods.com/forum/68-android-section/
      For more fun, check out the Club(s): https://iosgods.com/clubs/


      iOS Hack Download Link:

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      Installation Instructions:
      STEP 1: Download the .deb Cydia hack file from the link above. Use Safari/Google Chrome or other iOS browsers to download.
      STEP 2: Once the file has downloaded, tap on it and then you will be prompted on whether you want to open the deb with iGameGod or copy it to Filza.
      STEP 3: If necessary, tap on the downloaded file, and then, you will need to press 'Install' from the options on your screen.
      STEP 4: Let iGameGod/Filza finish the cheat installation. Make sure it successfully installs, otherwise see the note below.
      STEP 5: If the hack is a Mod Menu — which is usually the case nowadays — the cheat features can be toggled in-game. Some cheats have options that can be enabled from your iDevice settings.
      STEP 6: Turn on the features you want and play the game. You may need to follow further instructions inside the hack's popup in-game.

       

      NOTE: If you have any questions or problems, read our Troubleshooting topic & Frequently Asked Questions & Answers topic. If you still haven't found a solution, post your issue down below and we'll do our best to help! If the hack does work for you, please post your feedback below and help out other fellow members that are encountering issues.


      Credits:
      - AlyssaX64


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